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This Recall thing is a prime example of how bad we are at understanding when something is a systemic problem.

It doesn't matter if *you* disable it. It doesn't matter if *you* install Linux. It doesn't matter if *you* set your computer on fire and move to a Luddite commune.

If you have *ever* sent sensitive data, no matter how securely, to another person who now has this shit enabled, and they find your data and look at it, your data is compromised, and there's nothing you can do about it.

@confluency Systemic problems often lead to huge shifts.

So perhaps a huger shift to Linux will happen? Most of the time security is kinda abstract to people, but "Microsoft is screenshotting every porn you watch" might be much easier to grasp.

Adrianna Pińska

@chrastecky I would like to believe that, but I'm not optimistic. There's a stark difference in opinion about this between the computer-touching part of Fedi ("Look, Linux is actually very simple; here are six paragraphs explaining why you should use my favourite distro, and what might go wrong if you do, but if you just *listen*...") and the other part, which really really doesn't want to hear it.

@chrastecky I don't want to come across as condescending -- I don't think any of those people are stupid or lazy or incapable of learning. But switching isn't "free", and requires time and effort which most people do not have available.

While I hope that for at least some people this will be the final push that leads them to try out other options, that can't be the only plan, because I'm 100% confident that most people *absolutely will not do it*, and hoping that they will is magical thinking.

@confluency You don't need most, you need some critical mass.

Let's say it's 15% (just made it up, but sounds like a good number), once Linux reaches that much on desktop, it's a major player that needs to be counted with.

All the Linux issues that come down to hardware vendors will start to disappear and even more people will come over simply because Linux will simply be better for (almost) every use-case imaginable.

@confluency Recall won't probably reach this critical mass on its own, but it's a start.

Or maybe I'm wrong, but I still love watching Microsoft dig their own grave, albeit very slowly.

@chrastecky I would honestly love to believe this, but I don't.

Here's hoping it's as many people as possible, though. This is a golden opportunity for the big distros to target the Linux-curious -- but it's going to be a hard sell. Step zero is to convince people to install something *at all* instead of just using the thing that came pre-installed on their computer. For some people that is already too risky, unless they have a friend to help them.

@confluency Who today doesn't have a tech friend? But I do see your point, I'm not holding my breath, I'm just cautiously optimistic.

@chrastecky More importantly, the odds of the large institutions that already have a lot of our sensitive data abruptly switching en masse over this is basically nil. They have the manoeuvrability of megatankers. I guess the more serious ones will come up with internal policies for disabling the feature -- good luck making sure that there are no leaks in the system. In less serious organisations with poor enforcement, I fully expect employees to turn it back on, copy work to home laptops, etc..