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Cassandrich

Folks, please keep reporting "borderline" posts on fedi. Subtle genocide apologism, ecofascism, overpopulation myths, "soft" disapproval of LGBTQ folks' existence, JAQing off, "devil's advocate" for awful ppl, etc.

This place has historically had high moderation standards, but they only stay that way if we ask for that from our moderators.

Reporting someone doesn't mean "this person is evil and should be immediately banned". It means the behavior was unacceptable & post should be taken down.

The ideal outcome of reporting this kind of shit is that the author gets the message that their behavior is not okay, and that mods have a history to look at if it escalates, to see that the new worse thing they posted isn't a one-off mistake but a pattern of trying to get by with doing harm.

When you report, that goes to your own instance admins, and can be forwarded to the reported account's instance. Even if their instance won't act on it, your instance (or others you forward to) can take down the post or limit or block the account. If you're on a major instance, this can significantly limit the reach of the harm.

@dalias

It means the behavior was unacceptable & post should be taken down.

I’d argue it doesn’t even mean that, it means “I’m sufficiently unsure about this behavior that I want a moderator’s take on it”

@Gaelan That's a reasonable (and realistic if you have good trustworthy mods) take.

@dalias Another instance moderator here. You're absolutely correct - having hidden or deleted posts etc before increases the likelyhood the user will get the boot in the future even if no single post ever would be enough in itself.

@dalias So your position is "it's our job to keep THEM out", and you know which them is bad because they think it's their job to keep "them" out.

Meanwhile, "Victoria Explains" just privated her account and deleted a bunch of old posts, because of endless techbro tone policing _and_ the white knighting of everyone else trying to "help":

linuxmom.net/@vkc/113693952707

Meanwhile bluesky is run by women with paid admin team vs a zillion interlocking homeowners associations reaching beyond their borders

Veronica Explains' Mastodon (not to be confused with "Veronica Explains Mastodon", a video I might do)Veronica Explains (@vkc@linuxmom.net)Anyway, please don't send me links to folks being scary toward me. You may think you're helping but like, it's not helpful. It just kind of ruins my day.

@landley You know I do not approve of tone policing, and the topic here is the opposite of tone policing.

Tone policing is moderating someone for saying good things (usually speaking truth to power) in a way that's not "polite".

Topic here is moderating someone for saying utterly awful things sugar-coated to appear "nice" and "polite".

@landley The post motivating this thread was a reply guy whose profile gave off Euro white Christian supremacist vibes, jumping into a thread critical of mainstream dialogue about restricting immigration, with irrelevant cryptofash/ecofash talking points about "overpopulation".

@dalias Your advice, in isolation, was an exhortation to keep THEM out without further nuance. You then went "but I'm on the right side", which can be true without being helpful in context.

@landley No it was not. It gave very specific examples in case the word "borderline" was not clear. All of these were examples of abusive/fascist stuff cloaked to appear less overtly offensive/more "polite" that causes lots of folks to think "oh, that's not reportable" when it is.