Young folks: Please can we contribute using modern git-based workflow rather than email?
Old farts: No.
: OK, but can we at least use modern memory-safe languages?
: Also no.
: Perhaps we could modernise our language & attitudes to be more inclusive?
: LOL! No.
: Could we at least consider addressing some long-standing community issues?
: What part of "no" are you having trouble understanding?
: Why aren't there any new people contributing to our project? Truly a mystery.
@Edent Please can we use modern build tools like cmake, ninja, etc etc
Hell no. Plain `make` does the job easily for 90% of projects. Rtfm and learn how to use it before you go pushing for the latest flavor of the month.
Joining an existing project requires learning how it already works. You don't get to just jump in and imnediately request every current developer change all of their established procedures to accommodate you. That won't fly, anywhere in the world.
@soviut @Edent yes, I understood his point. But if you fail to acknowledge the validity of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" then you've got problems too. Nobody wants to spend time reinventing wheels. Changing tooling has a high cost. If your first instinct as a new developer to a working project is "we gotta upgrade to tools I'm more comfortable with" instead of "I need to learn how this stuff works" then you've got an attitude problem.
@hyc @soviut @Edent Howard, you've accidentally entered this discussion without understanding that this is a subtoot of a particularly venomous exchange going on in the linux community right now that has nothing to do with makefiles or build scripts.
You .. might have a better reception in this thread if you take a moment to look at the resignations of Hector Marcan and Karol Herbst so that you understand the context well enough to formulate an informed comment.