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So…there is a concerted campaign, with Musk as its mouthpiece, to discredit Signal and get people to switch to Telegram. It’s disinformation, but there’s also useful information in it. The useful information is that a hideous, powerful, right-wing crank — or whoever’s yanking his chain — really, really wants people to use Telegram.

We’ve long known Telegram’s security is weak. But now, in light of this new information, we should move forward assuming that Telegram is actively compromised.

@inthehands@hachyderm.io Can we just do an open source Telegram server that has all the features the official ones have, and modify the clients a bit to allow self hosted servers? Cause telegram still has some good user experience.

@inthehands@hachyderm.io I care more about my friends that switched from Wechat which is worse to a less ugly (in terms of, ppl dont really get promptly visited by police because of a few words on Mr. Xi in private chats...yet) alternative. The groups, the channels, all the atmosphere were not built in a single day.

In selecting chat apps there's more than security -- a secure but hard to use one is only useful for geeks.

This is not much a defense for Telegram than a critic for those really good ones (in terms of security) wanting to compete. They've got a long way to go...