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Paul Cantrell

I’ve heard that the battery cooling system on Teslas is unusually prone to failure compared to other EVs.

I can’t confirm that, but it’s sure plausible: Teslas as a whole certainly take a “cheap luxury” approach that involves a •lot• of engineering shortcuts and hand-waving about safety.

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And in car system failure in a Tesla, the doors become unopenable — except using emergency release latches that hardly anybody even knows about!

This is why Teslas don’t just catch fire, but trap people inside •burn them alive• on a regular basis.

I refuse to even get in one at this point.

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Some quick web searching (hachyderm.io/@inthehands/11398) suggests that Cybertrucks burn people alive •57 times• more often than normal vehical.

57 times. Not 57% more. 57 •times• more. I mean…wow. Just wow.

Small N, quick research, yes yes, but…that difference is so large it’s hard to imagine it’s just some statistical fluke.

Swasticars kill.

/end

@inthehands

Musk has also fired sales teams, pushing buyers to order cars online. When they pick up, Musks people are supposed to take no longer than an hour for the test drive and to show people what the car does. they are also responsible for all the paperwork, etc. This means people buying Teslas probably don't even hear about how to release the door when the car catches fire. #DeathTrap #tesla

@inthehands And then there’s this: “…the trim piece that flew off of his truck is connected to a plastic frame bolted directly to the car; that trim piece, he says, is stuck to the frame with adhesive rather than welded or bolted to anything. That adhesive has seemingly failed in multiple places on his truck, leading to the loosened roofline trim panels.”
roadandtrack.com/news/a6385720

Road & Track · Some Cybertruck Owners Say Their Trucks Are Shedding Body Panels; One Thinks He Knows WhyBy Fred Smith

@strayhorse @inthehands
And a Tesla investor and backer says Musk needs to get to managing the company.

Mind you, my view is that the problems with design and build quality are long-standing problems that are being reflected in his leadership of DOGE.

theguardian.com/technology/202

The Guardian · Tesla backer says Musk must reduce Trump work, as 46,000 Cybertrucks recalledBy Dan Milmo

@jwi @strayhorse I was remarking on the same article! A real eye-popper, that one.
hachyderm.io/@inthehands/11419

@inthehands funny thing is, most people I’ve seen get into a model 3 for the first time finds the emergency release *first*, since it’s more the kind of release they see in other cars than the button you normally have to press in the 3. But then they completely forget that exists.

@mwyman
Yeah — though that’s the front seat. The back seat is a damned escape room.

@paul_ipv6
Probably it’s harder for those who use rideshares frequently, but in my case, I’ll refuse / cancel a request that shows up as a Tesla. I’m not getting in your death trap, thanks.

@inthehands

i'm with you but as i said, not everyone can control this completely. in some towns, teslas are also a large proportion of the rides.

@paul_ipv6
Yeah, choice is a luxury. Though for those who have it…well, I have to guess that getting chronically refused would change incentives for rideshare drivers in an impactful way.

@inthehands

i'd also be concerned about uber/lyft lowering your "rating" as a passenger, making those services mostly unusable.

uber/lyft are far more likely to care about not pissing off TFG/muskrat than they are passenger safety, at least while they can get insurance and avoid criminal prosecution.

@paul_ipv6
Yeah, sand in the gears doesn’t always come without cost for the sand-thrower.

@inthehands @paul_ipv6 on the other hand, more people cancelling rides with Teslas acts as yet another way to boycott that fascist company, which adds an incentive for Uber/Lyft to prioritize other car models, and for drivers to switch.

@sophieschmieg @paul_ipv6

I really do think that a lot of business leaders believe that fascism will be convenient for them. They’d never state it that way, but that truly is what they think. And yes they change their minds about that in large numbers, things can change fast.

@inthehands @paul_ipv6 the fact that they see Trump ruining the economy with tariffs, and still only meakly protesting is definitely evidence of that.

@sophieschmieg @paul_ipv6
Yup. Lots of “we can ride this out,” “we can be the ones who win favor,” “leopards won’t eat •my• face,” “it’s just unhinged leftists,” “it will evaporate,” “smart people behind the scenes have a plan,” etc.

One of our best hopes now is making that confidence crumble •before• there’s nothing left anyone can do about it.

@inthehands @paul_ipv6 there is some movement happening, though, my very boring liberal father in law went from "why are you so worried, it's just four years" to "I'm not sure you should travel internationally, do you have lawyers on call, I'm very worried" within 2 months. And I'm pretty sure lots of people are going through that right now, and gracefully accepting them into the fold will be key for any left alliance to succeed in stopping fascism.

That being said, "business leaders" are very different from "boring liberal"

@sophieschmieg @inthehands @paul_ipv6

I suspect many people have shifted, no matter their starting point. I was convinced from the start that they'd manipulate or ignore or fake the next elections to hold on to power one way or another, but now I've shifted to doubting they'll bother even having pretend elections.

@sophieschmieg @inthehands

as usual, the drivers are the ones least able to have leverage. many got their tesla through "deals" with uber/lyft and can't necessarily afford to get a different car.

the whole gig economy is designed to maximize biz owner profits, minimiize biz owner liability, and limit any rights workers have.

@paul_ipv6 @inthehands yeah, drivers get the raw end of the deal, and it truly sucks for them. But I don't see an alternative, both out of safety and moral concerns getting into a Tesla feels wrong.