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Looking at PyPI download stats and Google Trends, it seems like Pipenv still has a very significant user base, albeit a stable one. But my sense of the zeitgeist is that it's not being adopted for new projects as much. What's your sense?

@itamarst one tip when looking at pypi stats: I'd suggest filtering out Linux environments. Reasoning being, CI/CD builds drastically over-inflate usage statistics, so by only looking at Mac/Windows downloads you get a lot closer to a count of real people vs bots. Yes you exclude actual humans using Linux, which is a shame, but I think a count of Mac/Windows downloads is still a more accurate stat than raw downloads.

Itamar Turner-Trauring

@jacob Interestingly pipenv has almost no Darwin users compared to Windows, whereas for Poetry they're equivalent. That suggests maybe pipenv usage is also inflated?

pepy.tech claims to have way to filter out CI but you have to pay for that.

@itamarst maybe? Hard to say - the numbers can be hard to interpret because it’s just raw downloads, not any sort of actual per-user stats.

I’d be suspicious of paying for anything without knowing their methodology first. I don’t the the data exists to do that in a non-synthetic way, so understanding how they claim to do the filtering would be key to knowing if it’s worth paying for or if it’s snake oil