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I don't understand why so many folk on are recommending against running your own server.

The fundamental premise of the is distributed diversity yet when it comes to email apparently centralising the whole planet to @gmail is the preferred outcome.

This is broken and dangerously wrong.

Running your own mail server is equally as valid as running your own instance.

@markd
I get the impression that it's really hard, but more importantly that it's so easy to get blacklisted and so hard to get it fixed that it's not worth it.

The big email recipients like GMail and Outlook will just dump your emails, never let you know they've done it, never tell you why, never tell you how to fix it.

@negative12dollarbill @markd Your concerns on the latter half of your point, I'd like to demistify that as I run an email server on my pubnix Hashnix.club

You actually get status code messages all the time if something hasn't gone through, and IDK about Outlook but at least on Gmail's part, they let you know how to set up their GSMTP on your server for the purpose of having messages pass through their system to whoever is on their services.

Hopefully this is helpful info to ya. Figuring out an email server can be tricky, but once it clicks, it's as manageable as any other internet host server software.

@superfxchip @markd

Here's one thread on the topic I've seen recently:

techhub.social/@tristan@tech.l

“I had so so many problems with big providers (google, yahoo, microsoft) either sending all of my mail directly to spam or silently discarding it. didn’t matter how much DKIM or SPF i set up or how many different hosting providers (with clean IP blocks!) i tried. those large email services will not even engage with you to help debug unless your mail volume is in the thousands a day.”

LGBTQIA+ and TechTrist (@tristan@tech.lgbt)@DeltaWye@mstdn.social @melvian@dragonchat.org when i still ran my own server, i used postfix and dovecot on a FreeBSD box. I also used mail-in-a-box a few years back which is a ready to go virtual machine that also gets you stuff like spam filtering and webmail. however I had so so many problems with big providers (google, yahoo, microsoft) either sending all of my mail directly to spam or silently discarding it. didn’t matter how much DKIM or SPF i set up or how many different hosting providers (with clean IP blocks!) i tried. those large email services will not even engage with you to help debug unless your mail volume is in the thousands a day. so unless you have a compelling reason to run your own mail server i would advise against it, especially if you don’t intend to spend a few hours a month on maintenance. now I just pay five bucks a month for ProtonMail and it’s not something I have to worry about anymore :)
MarkD

@negative12dollarbill @superfxchip Yep. It's true. The big providers are basically arseholes who could not care less about smaller providers and self-hosters.

Having worked for these providers I know that they mostly don't care or don't have the resources to care.

The only solution is to make them less relevant.