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This article is trash, and a lie that white parents in the suburbs tell themselves. Trump didn't make Hudson Valley kids racist/sexist. Your kids were already that way, but you don't listen to Black kids, so you don't know that.

amp.theguardian.com/commentisf

NY State is Blacker than the US overall, but Hudson Valley is much whiter than the US overall. Ask a Black New Yorker why that is.

And stop pretending that manly men are conservative. Again: Black men are more masculine + more progressive.

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The Guardian · The boys in our liberal school are different now that Trump has wonBy Guardian staff reporter

@mekkaokereke Abandoning kids to the algorithms pushing extremism and to shtbags like Andrew Tate & his ilk have done enormous damage.

@wendinoakland

Black kids are online *a lot* more than white kids.

And yet, most Black boys think Tate is a loser, and that his fans are even bigger losers. Before the news became common knowledge, I explained what most Black men think of Tate. (CW: Discussion of Tate. It's bad. You really don't have to read this.
hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/109 )

The NY Times' trash crime coverage, and copaganda shows like "Law and Order" have done much more to encourage racism in these kids than social media has.

@mekkaokereke @wendinoakland The algorithm shows different kids different stuff.

IMO, the tell in the original story is the dieting. That's always been a really niche idea, but selling diet pills to healthy people is literally the business of right-wing radio.

@tob @wendinoakland

You don't think Black kids and girls of all races get shown Tate videos too? They do. The difference is who responds to it, likes it, searches for more, favorites, shares, comments positively on, Tate videos. I'll tell you who: losers that hate women and girls.

Recommendation systems don't magically know what you like before you've interacted.

The whole fitness industry sells stuff! But again, not everyone sporty goes fash. It's not fitness, or sports, or masculinity.

@mekkaokereke @wendinoakland I think you're being too reductive. These kids don't start out fascist.

I'm not trying to give them excuses. They are making conscious choices based on the media that's presented to them.

If we get out of this, we're going to have to seriously grapple with the challenge to society of giving anyone with an internet connection unfettered access to our brains.

@tob @wendinoakland

No, I am not being too reductive.

Kids of all races, genders, religions, countries of origins, etc, are all exposed to the same fascist nonsense online. Almost all of them reject it, except the kids brought up in a culture that conditions them to expect a superior place in society because they're white.

It doesn't matter if they like physical sports or video games. If they are boys or girls. Rich or poor.

The only US folk where a majority support fascism, are white.

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@tob @wendinoakland

People don't want to believe that "acceptance of racism" is the common denominator of these viewpoints. So they stay surprised when they learn that most white women support it.🤷🏿‍♂️

Or they pretend that it is "evangelicalism and religion." Even though Black kids are more church going than white, Latin or Asian kids, and still reject fascism.🤷🏿‍♂️

Or pretend that it's "economic anxiety," even though Black folk have the most economic anxiety, and still reject fascism.🤷🏿‍♂️

Any excuse.

@mekkaokereke @wendinoakland You can say you're being deliberately reductive, but "they were hopeless racists all along" is your argument.

It's possible to be reductivist and also correct, and maybe you are.

But if so, isn't the implication of your argument that it's impossible to have a anti-racist society because the whites will keep screwing it up?

America is systemically racist. Those who want to enshrine the systems of racism haven't been sitting around idle.

mekka okereke :verified:

@tob @wendinoakland

🤔What?

No. You're confusing yourself trying to paraphrase what I said.

Yes, those kids were racist. And as I've said before, racist men don't care about your reproductive rights.

If you want these kids to not act like that, it's easy! Or at least it should be. Because you only have to do 2 things:
1) Stop trying to make every silly excuse but the real one: that racism underlies many of these views
2) Address that racism

There is no step 3.