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@ohmu @troutgirl Yeah there’s that too, and when people say they’re mad about the DNC not permitting Palestinian speakers, Harris not taking a stronger stance on the issue, etc. that’s a big part of why.
@MisuseCase @ohmu I heard that Rashida Tlaib, who would ordinarily be the Palestinian American spokesperson, refused to speak. There's no upside for her either!
@MisuseCase @ohmu Oh because she supports a one-state solution :/
@troutgirl @ohmu Well in fairness to her I think a two-state solution isn’t viable anymore, although that’s because Israel has been taking so much of the land that was supposed to be the Palestinian state that there’s not much left.
Also IMO it won’t protect Palestinians. Ending apartheid and. Fully enfranchising them is the only viable way forward but nobody on either side of the issue wants that LOL
@MisuseCase @ohmu Israel absolutely won't accept a single-state solution and if they did it would be based on a calculation that the WORST people in their society can outbreed the Palestinians so... Nope I'm not gonna support any of that.
@MisuseCase @ohmu Not that at some level it's any of my business how they work it out. One of the reasons I've avoided this topic is that, having come from a country traumatically split by the Great Powers, I'm not eager to have an opinion about it for others. Also I'm VERY uncomfortable with religious motivations.
@troutgirl @ohmu Honestly relatively good outcomes like an actual two-state solution or some kind of one-state solution where the right-wingers don’t get to steer the car seem increasingly unlikely. Israel becoming another Middle East autocracy or totally collapsing, or ending up somewhere between those two options, is more likely. It’s not looking good.
@MisuseCase @ohmu Agree not looking good. Israelis seem to have split into a weak peace movement and a strong atrocity movement. BUT I'm not part of their culture and can't, for instance, tell where the families of the kidnapped really fall besides wanting their loved ones back dead or alive.
@troutgirl @ohmu The people who really want to kill all the Palestinians are basically hardcore religious nuts - and the core constituency of the current government. They are kind of like Christian Evangelicals here in America.
Although they are a minority they have spent the past couple decades (at least) getting their hands on every lever of power they can, and they’ll either turn the country into a fascist theocracy or burn it down in the attempt.
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@troutgirl @ohmu Because Netanyahu is hell bent on staying in power, which means feeding meat to this fascist constituency, he’s kept on doing what he’s doing even though it means a huge number of displaced Israelis, killing Israeli hostages, and devastating the country’s economy (I think it’s lost more than 20% of the GDP it had when all this started).
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@troutgirl @ohmu This is why I’m not convinced that America closing the pocketbook at this point would have the rapid and salutary effect many pro-Palestine people think it would have. Not at this point, anyway. We would have had to do it years ago.
Netanyahu is going to try every possible way to keep doing what he’s doing at this point because otherwise he’s toast.
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I had originally framed Netanyahu as the Israeli Trump, but maybe he’s actually more Baldwin IV: https://inaniludibrio.com/2024/04/14/crusaders-gonna-crusade/