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@badnetmask@hachyderm.ioWhile reading the This Week in Self-Hosted (14 February 2025) newsletter by @shollyethan, I found out about this interesting website for Proxmox users. It generates bash scripts that automate the install of various kinds of apps, either in LXC containers, or VMs. I tried a couple of them, and they are very easy to use and practical.
I'm gonna keep writing my own Ansible playbooks (I kind of have a template now), but this is very interesting to use, in case I just want to try something out before committing.
@badnetmask @shollyethan this is interesting indeed, I took a look at the source code of one of the installers , basically this is just some shell scripts including other shell scripts, etc. Sparrow framework - https://sparrowhub.io takes similar approach however every plugin is more isolated ( does not depend on other scripts and thus self contained ) and thus easier to debug, also users could choose between cli or #RakuLang API way of run
@melezhik @shollyethan
This is interesting, but seems to be geared towards a totally different purpose, with a very different implementation method, so very hard to compare one to another. But thanks for the reference!
@badnetmask @shollyethan ooc how do you see the difference?
@melezhik
Two simple things: a) I don't see any references to Proxmox, and b) totally different scripting language, which obviously has totally different capabilities.
@badnetmask ok, sparrow is a general purpose automation platform ( think Ansible ), I probably need to write some examples of deploying resources in proxmox ( can I just “poach” them from the mentioned site 
) , sparrow scenarios could be written on Bash and run via command line. Raku SDK is an option for people willing do something more complex via Raku
@badnetmask @shollyethan I've been using them for over a year now, and they're great.
The original author passed away recently (fuck cancer) and the community rallied around supporting his family, and with his family's blessing continue to maintain and expand them.
It's a fantastic community of developers that keep that thing going.
@johnsturgeon @shollyethan
Oh wow! I had no idea about that situation. Thanks for letting me know.