I have zero confidence left in Mozilla's leadership. In fact, here's a bold prediction: the Thunderbird team (operating under the wholly owned subsidiary known as MZLA) will be more profitable within 5 years than Mozilla Corporation. Yes, that same dying product Mozilla abandoned in 2012. The one the COMMUNITY kept alive and the one that is now thriving.
Eventually Mozilla will approach MZLA begging them to come back...
(Note that I'm saying this as someone no longer employed there.)
One of the weirdest disconnects happened a few months ago when I received a Mozilla Foundation newsletter about the evils of big corporations building unethical AI. It was a donation appeal so they could gear up to "fight" against companies like OpenAI.
This doesn't seem strange until you consider that Mozilla is currently paying a ChatGPT Enterprise license for all ~1000 of its employees. And encouraging them to use it for productivity, brainstorming, & code.
Yea, it didn't sit well. At all.
@killyourfm it is quite sad that the only working alternative browser engine is under such company. It is such a big turn-off. But I keep resisting the urge to switching to chromium.
@alvan @killyourfm How is there even such a thing as an "urge to switch to Chromium"? This makes utterly no sense.
@dalias Sorry couldn't get exactly what you are saying, but what I meant was "Mozilla makes me so angry that, even if I hate browser monopoly I want to ditch FF and use chromium based browsers"
@alvan I mean I see it as the same phenomenon as "I want to go back to my abusive ex because my current partner turned out bad" (rather than "I want to be single for a while") or "I want to vote for the nazis because the party I supported didn't fully represent my interests". It's baffling and destructive, subjecting yourself (much less others) to worse rather than insulating from the badness while seeking better paths for future.
@dalias I see, that is true. Sure, I won't ever switch, and wording was not very successful. I am looking forward Ladybird tho. That is the browser I have hope for.
@alvan I think everyone's enthusiasm for Ladybird soured quickly based on the authors' attitudes towards whose needs they need to be serving. I don't see it going anywhere.
@alvan Basically a milkshake duck.
@dalias I've been following their project since ladybird was just html renderer inside serenityos. With the community, expertise - and now the funding - idk, I feel like they'll be able to deliver at least daily-driveable browser.