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Made a post on Bluesky about moderation problems on Bluesky. Got this reply. My gut response is okay, weird offtopic reply. Then I thought about it and was like, wait, I don't know enough about the referenced philosophy to know if this makes sense, it might actually be relevant. Then I thought about it some more and was like wait, is it actually the case bluesky is fundamentally anarcholibertarian while Mastodon is fundamentally anarchosyndicalist…? Instances as reification of interest groups?

@mcc mastodon and the fediverse more broadly is extremely authoritarian imo. Instance admins are little dictators who get to control what information that "their" users see.

@ch0ccyra1n @mcc Except their users just move. Mastodon (rather the fedi) is a mix of all kinds of models that heavily incentivizes the shit ones dying out.

@dalias @mcc there's no option to not have an admin that doesn't also require taking on that role yourself. I would prefer to have all interactions be handled directly between users in a peer-to-peer manner. At least then there truly is no hierarchy involved.

@dalias @mcc in that respect, I suppose instance admins are more like nonprofit executives, who are also still little dictators. At least users can choose who's boot they're under /s

@ch0ccyra1n @mcc It's not a boot if they can't keep you under it. And it's not a dictator unless a single person or small group without a better governance model controls everything.

@dalias @mcc I consider any form of governance to be just dictatorship lite. But I can understand why one would disagree with such an assessment. I simply do not think it is right to have any sort of hierarchy and I think it is one of the biggest flaws with both centralized and federated models of social networking.

@ch0ccyra1n @mcc Governance does not have to be hierarchical.

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@ch0ccyra1n @mcc Kinda real world example: a jury is empowered to make seriously decisions that are a form of governance, but they're not part of a hierarchical social relationship, and ideally chosen explicitly not to be.