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i think maybe a lot of people out there believe that something has to be Important to be worth saving. but the only reason we know much of anything about history and culture is that so many decidedly unimportant things managed to stick around, or people actively decided to save them despite there being no obvious benefit.
i think humanity loses something absolutely essential, the world becomes so much bleaker and our spirits poorer, if we don't do this.

in my opinion it is presumptuous and narrow-minded and vaguely nihilistic to say that it's fine if everything written on the fediverse gets erased forever. we don't know what use what we say here will be to future humans, or even our future selves. given how deliberately destructively a huge % of twitter has been erased, directly and indirectly by its owner, it's clear that nothing inside a corporate walled garden should be expected to survive. it's up to us.

@jplebreton Wow, what kinda assholes are saying that? Sounds like HOA retirement community bs.

@dalias @jplebreton It's pretty much the equivalent of the post autodeletion/expiration feature and can also be considered part of the anti-indexing argument.

@lispi314 @jplebreton It's okay that some people want that. It's "right to be forgotten".

That's different from "right to burn down all records of history", which is what these asshats insist on. Or rather, they insist nothing of historical significance is supposed to take place on fedi because it's their private retirement community.

@dalias @jplebreton > That's different from "right to burn down all records of history", which is what these asshats insist on. Or rather, they insist nothing of historical significance is supposed to take place on fedi because it's their private retirement community.

That is indeed much worse.

> It's okay that some people want that. It's "right to be forgotten".

Personally, I find issue even with that, though perhaps not for fedi. I've seen *many* authors and artists go completely insane and purge their galleries for shit & giggles over the years.

It's a significant part of why I even do datahoarding to start with. Sure, corposcum are untrustworthy hosts, but artists purposely burning down their contributions to culture are also a problem.
Cassandrich

@lispi314 @jplebreton Indeed I don't like the naming of "right to be forgotten". It should be more like "right not to be further publicly discoverable". IMO the AP fedi model somewhat gets this wrong with deletion also affecting people's saves/bookmarks and views of their own conversations, but that's really unavoidable with the model where the instance holds your data.