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Or... "When you ride a Tesla you ride with a 3rd generation Nazi" with the ghost outline of Elon.

Potentially more effective because the public mostly doesn't realize that history.

@dalias The problem isn't that his grandfather was a Nazi - the problem is that HE is a Nazi.

@dalias I just think we should judge people for who they are & what they do, not for what their ancestors were & did.

@jwcph What I'm saying is that "who he is and what he did" was someone who embraced his dynastic nazi role. We wouldn't be condemning him if he'd rejected it.

But the point here is that these aren't mere coincidences or jokes by a neonazi-flirting edgelord like his fans like to pretend. They're values he was raised with, with direct lineage to OG Nazism.

@dalias All true - but I don't think those edgelord dipshits are who we need to be communicating towards; no matter what they're told, they'll find some bullshit gymnastics to reject it.

The challenge is the "benefit of the doubt" crowd, who also tend to be the kind of people who, if told his grandpappy was a Nazi, will immediately be like "But that doesn't mean HE is a Nazi", adding an unnecessary extra "No, but he is" layer of explanation.

Personal history is complex, being a Nazi isn't.

@jwcph The audience is people who bought Teslas, who bought into his techno futurism bs and dismissed the obvious signs of nazism.

@dalias Precisely. While everyone who bought a Wankpanzer can be assumed to be one of those edgelord assholes, most other Tesla-buyers by far are of the "benefit of doubt" crowd - e-cars appeal overwhelmingly to self-identified "upper-middleclass lefties", who until a few years ago thought they had a rare billionaire ally in Elmo. To protect their own egos they'd done a lot of doubt-benefiting as his true colors have become evermore apparent.