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@james

It's not that baffling.

1. Good user experience, fundamentally requires above all else, empathy for the user.

2. A lot of the Mastodon community, lacks this basic empathy for these users.

hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/113

There's not much attempt made to understand why users are choosing BlueSky, and what Mastodon could change to have them choose Mastodon.

Instead, there's fierce resistance to change, and disdain directed at users for even wanting some of these basic improvements.🤷🏿‍♂️

@mekkaokereke @james the fact that I've wanted a way to subscribe to blocklists on Mastodon as a kind of "web of trust" feature that would be EASIEST to do with ActivityPub since

y'know

publishing payloads is KIND OF THE THING

and BlueSky just like does that from the jump...

It's baffling to me. That Mastodon has resisted this kind of idea for this long, I mean.

@root @mekkaokereke @james Bluesky has been a joy to use these last few days. Mastodon better do something soon

@serapath @bbmin7b5 @root @mekkaokereke @james

"we should educate people" is doomed from the start. People don't need to use Mastodon for their job or to get government services. They are on socials for fun--they aren't going to take a class to learn how to make it work for them! Either it's easy and fun or it isn't.

"must show commitment to federation by putting up with broken shit" could be a valid entry requirement to keep out the shallow riff-raff if you want a more exclusive club. But you can't at the same time complain people would rather go somewhere else.

@dveditz @bbmin7b5 @root @mekkaokereke @james

fair enough.

now the thing is, many people are ...something

naive?broken?privileged?... you name it.

The "mainstream" loves "pop music" even though the industry is abusive and all the people supporting it without knowing.
You could say the same about capitalism.

Now the thing is, at least those who learn more should lead by good example to be connected to their peers in better ways and keep doors open for others to join.

@dveditz @bbmin7b5 @root @mekkaokereke @james

it's always the early adopters who see a vision who do it first and when everyone that made the old/previous place worth being there has left to the new place, those same uninspired that only go anywhere when it's FUN ...will follow, because they then recognize the FUN is in the new place.

People who only operate on the level of "fun" will definitely not ever be early adopters - they just dont understand much what things are about in this context

@serapath @dveditz @bbmin7b5 @root @james

Serapath, you've understood zero of what I posted and are without irony, doing exactly what I said in my original reply:
* You're not talking at all about how to make Mastodon better
* You're making unsupported claims about what the motivations of people that chose BlueSky are, based on your biased assumptions about what motivated them.

For example, you're going off about BlueSky marketing budget, when their user spikes are not based on marketing.
1/N

@serapath @dveditz @bbmin7b5 @root @james

You're making unsupported claims about people who like fun are never early adopters. What? That's so silly I don't even know how to start to address it.

Your making silly claims about people who like pop music. Like, what?

You lack empathy, and you don't even pretend to listen to why people make the choices that they do, so you have no hope of understanding it. I'm not going to try to persuade you to listen to people, or to improve Mastodon.

2/N

@serapath @dveditz @bbmin7b5 @root @james

I'll leave you to your fundamental attribution error:

BlueSky users are bad. Because they only seek fun. Got it. Unlike you: the good, unfun, noble Mastodon user! Saving the world, one federated post at a time!

(In a shocking twist, the world can only be saved in a place that is hostile to Black people. Who knew!)

3/3

@mekkaokereke @dveditz @bbmin7b5 @root @james

Not what i said.
Bluesky is bad.
Bluesky users who are into people controlling their own data and means of communication with each other probably are just victims of bluesky influencer marketing or they might actually not care - hard to say - they would know best.

But everyone who does care should definitely avoid bluesky.

Mastodon isnt perfect - i'm not even a big fan, but it is more decentralized.
#nostr would be even better.

mekka okereke :verified:

@serapath @dveditz @bbmin7b5 @root @james

"Mastodon is better" Okay, now I know you don't talk to any Black people.

Sorry, but I can't be your first one.

I'm disengaging.

Be well!

@mekkaokereke @dveditz @bbmin7b5 @root @james

Mastodon is more decentralized.
Bluesky is a VC controlled place.

I am not a huge fan of fediverse or mastodon, but bluesky is less decentralized.

Be well too.
I think we just had too many misunderstandings... hmm sad.