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@lizzy actually with Java 23+ you can now have "void main() { println("Hello world!"); }" which should be shorter than the C++ one (even if you skip the iostream verbosity and use C puts) since you don't need to include anything

@luatic @lizzy "even if you skip the iostream verbosity and use C puts" What are you using? C++98 or something? std::print exists in C++23 so :).

@pinskia @lizzy C++ 17

((but std::print is still longer than puts and you still need to include something for it, so..))