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katzenberger 🇺🇦

@soller

@aral is pointing out the simple fact that companies with a quite decent overall budget are pushing out essential software that excludes people who had been better supported before. As everybody trying out accessibility features under Wayland vs. x11 can easily experience.

Nowhere is he posting blanket statements like your "people are not supporting accessibility". These are your misrepresentations of what he is saying.

Quote him correctly.

@thestrangelet @lucasmz

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Michael A. Murphy :system76:

@katzenberger

> From the actually-what-you’re-referring-to-as-ableism-is-GNU/ableism department

Quoted the blanket statement.

Not only that, but the post complains that a Fedora maintainer said that patches are welcome, and yet the first instinct in response to that is to want to block them? Not a productive attitude.

If you care about the problem, then instead of calling people abliest, go help the people who are working on this problem. GNOME is backing AccessKit, which will be in COSMIC.

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katzenberger 🇺🇦

@mmstick

I really admire your text cutting skills, your deliberate effort to make this look like a blanket statement.

You are very well aware whom exactly @aral criticized in this post, and for what specific reaction.

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ragectl

@katzenberger @mmstick @aral every linux distribution? is that blanket enough?

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Aral Balkan

@ragectl @katzenberger @mmstick Quote me correctly: “a glaring accessibility issue in nearly every major Linux distribution on the planet”

mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112647420

GNOME and KDE, the two major display environments, both default to Wayland.

- Fedora, RHEL, etc.
- Ubuntu
- OpenSUSE
- Any other distribution that defaults to default behaviour of GNOME & KDE

PopOS doesn’t, but apparently System76 decided this is their hill to die on anyway. 🤷‍♂️

Aral’s fediverse serverAral Balkan (@aral@mastodon.ar.al)@soller@fosstodon.org @thestrangelet@beige.party @lucasmz@hachyderm.io You can unfollow and publicly shame me for calling out a glaring accessibility issue in nearly every major Linux distribution on the planet. What you can’t do is both do that and argue that there isn’t an ableist culture in open source software because you’re literally perpetuating it right now by showing the next person exactly what happens when someone criticises the lack of accessibility in your community. #a11y #linux
#a11y#linux
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ragectl

@aral @katzenberger @mmstick so now that we've clarified that you're not just talking about IBM and Canonical

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Aral Balkan

@ragectl @katzenberger @mmstick Not that it needing clarification but, sure. I believe I’ve been very clear and consistent about what the problem is.

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Aral Balkan

@ragectl @katzenberger @mmstick No, without the rest of the sentence my words are out of context as the rest of the sentence qualifies the bit you quoted and limits its scope.

“Every Linux distribution” (which is what you quoted) is not the same as “Every Linux distribution that ships with Wayland by default – and that’s almost every major Linux distribution” and you know it.

Anyway, now the context has been added in this thread so I don’t see any reason to bikeshed this further.

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