People who say ‘anyone should be able to live / work anywhere / there should be no borders’
I don’t disagree but
You’ve clearly never tried to emigrate anywhere and stuff like that feels vapid and useless
Especially to people without passport privilege
The only people who currently have the ability to live / work anywhere with somewhat open borders are global north digital nomads making their homes in the developing world, mostly without following visa or tax laws. Everybody else needs a binder full of papers and stacks of money to even exist, to make the opposite journey
@skinnylatte Well, other than people in the EU. As much criticism as I've heard over the past 5 years, the fact that people within the European Union are allowed to work and live wherever they want is amazing.
*as long as they can afford it. if you are disabled or can't work and no one can support you economically in the country you want to move in, you can't.
@nlovsund @skinnylatte I specifically wrote 'are allowed to' (by EU law), of course it always depends on your circumstances.
@Radgryd @nlovsund like with everything else about Europe, great if you’re from the system, a different set of rules for others
https://nltimes.nl/2024/11/11/netherlands-implement-land-border-controls-dec-9
@skinnylatte @nlovsund I am well aware of what's happening in Europe right now, but I don't know what that has to do with what I said. I clearly said for people within the EU. Which is also not a small space in the world with people from different backgrounds.
@Radgryd @skinnylatte @nlovsund
"People within the EU" includes everyone who isn't white - and we know whom the police will check in these border controls. I have sat in a train in Germany (where I'm a foreigner) and the police walked right past me.
The freedom of movement is not the same for everyone "within the EU".
Is the EU still better than what we had before? yes
@Mab_813 @skinnylatte @nlovsund@sunet.se You're absolutely right regarding racial profiling, which already happens *within* countries, not just the EU and its borders. My comment was only about 'the ability to live/work anywhere with somewhat open borders', by law, nothing more, nothing less. I think the EU is a good thing and it's important to support it. Of course that doesn't mean we're going to heal the entire world with it, especially not with the current political and economic climate here.