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The events of the last couple of days have shown me that many ‘nice’, not Republican people want to see where on the pecking order they can place immigrants. Ideally below them as ‘natives’. If we are desperate enough they’ll be happy to toss us a bone. But if we make more money than they think we should, we shouldn’t be allowed to take ‘their place’. We shouldn’t be allowed to be ‘cheap labor’ either.
What really gets me is how dehumanizing all of this is. You don’t like H-1Bs and think it needs to be restricted, because you don’t like Elon? You have no idea how any of this works and how you’re advocating for harming half a million people who are just trying to make a life for themselves. You’re no better than those other people.
In mid November I was preparing for ‘those guys are going to be terrible on immigration again’. In late December I’m wondering why those guys are better on immigration than ‘my people’.
I guess none of them are my people and immigrants are just political footballs that people frankly don’t see as people.
I advocate for *all* immigrants loudly and clearly, no matter what papers they have, or don’t.
I think a lot of people are sliding into nativist America First dressed up as some liberal ideology, and mistaking that for wanting to put Americans First. Because you all feel neglected by this country. I guess taking it out on the newcomers is the most American thing you can do.
Today, I met a friend who has a 15 year wait for a green card. His manager ‘forgot’ to tell him the results of his immigration process, which he has no control or visibility over. When he found out what happened, he had only 3 days, instead of 3 months, to respond to paperwork that will change his life.
Every single one of us goes through inhumane processes with bigots and bureaucracy. Every one of us suffers with how even ‘nice’ people don’t understand how they can impact us like this.
The reason why there are thousands of people risking life and death and the Darien gap is that they have 3x more of a chance of getting work authorization than a H-1B does. (If they survive)
Apparently, I’ve read from US liberal mastodon all week that it’s super easy to get a visa to come and take your jobs. Think about that.
@skinnylatte@hachyderm.io I can’t say I’m surprised to hear that people are doing this but it is very fucking disgusting that this is happening.
Elon is a ridiculous fucking sham of a person and all he does is exploit whatever, and whomever, he can. The fact that self-proclaimed leftists are immediately blaming the visa system instead of the guy who really sucks and makes a ton of problems for literally everyone on this goddamn planet is just… ugh. I’m sorry. I’ve been sick and am clearly in a bubble because I haven’t seen any of this. You, and every person in this goddamn country and elsewhere deserves none of this garbage.
Elon isn’t even pro immigration, he’s just pro exploitation. That’s it. For fuck’s sake.
@aud read this piece by RR and all the comments. There are a bunch of folks here who I would call RR Dems, who are exactly like this
https://robertreich.substack.com/p/why-the-muskrat-is-wrong-about-opening
@skinnylatte@hachyderm.io oh Jesus CHRIST
What a fucking load of garbage. God. That’s infuriating.
@skinnylatte@hachyderm.io “which side is right?”, he asks. NEITHER THEY BOTH SUCK EGGS. god.
@skinnylatte@hachyderm.io how can someone frame this as a “labor issue” and think about it for more than two seconds and not come to the conclusion that what we need is better support and protections for workers. Why would a business prefer an H1B holder? Is it because they’re more skilled? Let’s say yes for the sake of argument. Why are you then insisting it’s the role of business to train citizens with the necessary skills instead of, say, the fucking state!? Maybe we lack “skilled” workers because of issues like our terrible for profit education system! Maybe we lack “skilled” workers because our educational system actively discriminates against more than half the population! Or because companies are biased against hiring women and BIPOC and don’t think of them as skilled! Maybe we’d have more “skilled citizens” if some of systemic issues were worked on?
god. how was the this guy allowed near policy.
@aud oh someone also told me that we should reduce H1Bs so ‘they bring caste discrimination over here’
Yes, that sucks, but you don’t know anything about that either
@skinnylatte@hachyderm.io RIGHT!? Like yeaaaah I am pretty sure I know people that have experienced that kind of discrimination and I am pretty sure people saying that do not.
You know what a good little shield against that would be? Unions! Holding companies accountable for toxic workplaces! It’s not like companies and offices here don’t have an ass ton of bias already, god.
@skinnylatte @aud I was hoping there'd be a textbox for reason ("your spokesperson is writing MAGA wankpieces") but sadly nope.
Well shit. I have often found myself agreeing with RR, but he is all kinds of wrong here.
(I went with a spousal visa even though I had a job before I got here, because I knew what could happen on an H1B. It beggars belief that a former secretary of labor doesn't understand how the system works. Meaning, he knows, but his "solution" is to shut the door.)