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Ted

I've seen more than a few folks on my Mastodon timeline express enthusiasm about Glaze, a system whose goal is to protect artists against style mimicry by generative models.

If you're using this work, or otherwise have heard of it and thought "wow this is neat I'm happy people are doing it", I strongly recommend you read this blog post by security & privacy researchers Nicholas Carlini & Florian Tramèr about evaluating Glaze's claims: spylab.ai/blog/glaze/

SPY Lab · Glazing over security | SPY LabWe discuss the security of the Glaze tool, and how the authors' actions may not be in the best interest of their users.

@tedted yeah. I was starting to have some doubts when I learned that there wasn't any public source code released, which I found odd from a research perspective.
(Although the thing that kept me from using it ultimately was the lack of a linux release 🙃)

@tedted "So we should maybe just be transparent that [schemes for protecting against machine learning] are mostly for show."
😬

@tedted yeah I'm p sure I caught a bunch of blocks for demonstrating a bypass to Glaze 1.0 w/ GIMP for lineart and flats (not by the glaze team but just periphery ppl) bc it fundamentally cannot work for those, and the Glaze peeps didn't really acknowledge that at all until their Nightshade paper 😬

@tedted@hachyderm.io security by obscurity will never stop being hilarious

ive made a post about glaze + nightshade before, but didnt feel like dealing with the responses it got anymore

@tedted@hachyderm.io its literally selling snake oil to people who have their livelihoods threatened, and I feel like that is just royally fucked up

@tedted I've had 2 incidents where I tried to point some of these things out to the authors of glaze. The first time, some cs professor involved started hurling personal insults at me, saw my bio and asked "how did someone like you get a job at nvidia?" and then he blocked me. Second time was not much better. It really would be nice if it could work, but as you point out, unfortunately it cannot!

@demofox @tedted @nyrath It's basically the digital equivalent of homeopathy.

Cheap way to fix a problem.
No side effects compared to other measures.
Hyped up by both its creators and true believers.
The proposed mechanism for it makes sense on a surface level.
Yet the only "evidence" that it does literally anything, comes from its inventors!

@tedted Thank you for the article. What are your proposed best alternatives to protect art against AI?

@tedted if it does work, it's likely going to be used by corporations to sue artists that "sound too much like" the artists that they own.