@dukepaaron not trying to get into a big argument, but briefly the answer is עמךָ ישראל. How well that maps onto European notions of nation is an interesting conversation in a different context
@derle @raf
@alter_kaker In Europe the main alternative to zionism is assimilation, and it's by far dominant, because, going to Israel is not hard to do.
In France, Internationalism has disappeared from mainstream politics. Even most of the far left has stopped promoting it, the closes mainstream thing would be European federalism which is grossly equivalent to make Europe US
@dukepaaron @raf
@derle my perspective is that the best alternative to Zionism, and the one I chose, is traditional Judaism. We also have a non-territorial nationalism available. Unfortunately those are not easy choices to make because they require a break with dominant Western modes of thought.