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@lewiscowles1986 @hrefna @Azuaron @aredridel landlords are fundamentally capatalist. Their ability to perform that role derives from property right (capital, and thus covered under OPs definition).

Their harm is a matter of scale, and while someone renting out their single spare unit is not what's creating the housing crisis, the decision to keep the property under ownership and rent it out is still hoarding living space for profit, driving up prices.

@lewiscowles1986 @hrefna @Azuaron @aredridel but OPs specific case is not all that clear cut. Is that person "hoarding" living space for profit? Maybe in principle, but in practice it feels much more murky. And definitely not the first place to spent your effort, when we have giant corporations owning so much property.

Hrefna (DHC)

@joelving

There's also a world of difference between landlord (not a job) and property manager (a job classically involving a lot of logistics and emotional labor), but sometimes—not always, but often in these "renting out a bedroom" cases—those _are_ the same person.

It's easy to make sweeping statements about complex situations, it's a lot harder to actually navigate them inside of the capitalist dystopia when everyone is trying to get by.

@lewiscowles1986@phpc.social @Azuaron @aredridel

@joelving

But every. single. time. the discussion turns to "but renting out a bedroom is evil" or "but if you can't afford to live without a roommate you should sell!" it only serves to support the people who are _actually hoarding property_.

Because no matter how "wrong" that may be (or not), it is not on the same _planet_ of impact as the Blackstones and Greystones of the world.

At best the argument is value neutral.

No exceptions.

@lewiscowles1986@phpc.social @Azuaron @aredridel