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Signed save-nix-together.org primarily because I'm concerned about the people I see leaving the community. We should be pulling more people in, not pushing people away.

save-nix-together.orgopen letter to the NixOS foundation

I tend to compare the and communities a lot, because that is my bubble. Rust seems so incredibly on top of things, in comparison. Just the general way they understand social dynamics, and the way they communicate.

For example, there was an incident last year where Rust leadership had to make a public apology. I went back to read that, and there's no perfect way to do it, but it seems way better than how Nix is dealing with the Anduril controversy. blog.rust-lang.org/2023/05/29/

blog.rust-lang.orgOn the RustConf keynote | Rust BlogEmpowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.

@kosinus That's very interesting, I was chatting with a rustc developer today, and he told me "It's interesting, you have almost our exact same set of problems!" after getting speed up on the ongoing situation.

@raito They're general issues of scale, I guess? So it's not very surprising in that sense, but then I feel the Rust response is very different. I should probably note that my involvement in either is sporadic at best. 🙃

@kosinus @raito rust has the same kind of organizational problems but without any single person tending to be exercising vetos that make them worse. rust problems are more aggressively created by several people in collaboration i think?

Stéphan Kochen

@leftpaddotpy @raito I _think_ that's better? Having a group of people at least means there's some consensus, plus you can set rules for representation.