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YouTube video: Have you heard of a de-Googled phone?

Me: Do you mean a Huawei? 😆

@liztai I have a Huawei tablet. It's cheap but very nice. I don't really miss Google's software there but some other apps I want (e.g. online course) require Google's infrastructure.

@gombang I have a Huawei phone. I'm actually impressed by how hardy it is because I've dropped it like a bazillion times. No lagging in performance either. I've been using it since 2019 so I'm actually impressed it lasted this long. My iPhone ironically lasted only 2 years lol. (my fault as i kept dropping it haha)

@liztai Huawei! I know that company because it was the one providing equipment for WLL phones in India. Been using it for connectivity gadgets here and there ever since ☎️

(That stands for "Wireless Local Loop", and it was basically like landlines, but using an antenna and towers for the last mile broadcast, designed for sparsely populated rural areas where it would be too expensive to lay cables all the way. Our first one look like the attached picture that I found online but is in the process of disappearing)

@gombang
Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

@badri @gombang Honestly, the whole ban/deGoogling of Huawei gave it so much brand recognition in my part of the world. Before that I couldn't care less what brand my phone was. After the whole thing, I realised they made a whole phletora of things like your WLL phones and 5G thingamajics in Malaysia lol

@liztai nice! Yeah I can see how it'd catch on in places that don't blindly think "US good, China bad" or something along those lines. And from what hardware I've used, they certainly know their job 🔧

The Indian government right now is going through a very "China bad" phase, so I think I'll be seeing less Huawei products around, but who knows, that stuff is mostly for show anyway 🫠

@gombang

@badri @gombang In my part of the world, due to what's happening in a certain country in the Middle East, "US good" doesn't even exist anymore. China is more like "kinda suss" lol

@liztai @gombang haha yeah. In my personal logic it's the same, although I'm not too aware what the rest of the country thinks (we have a lot of Hindu supremacists here who don't think beyond "Muslim bad" even when the context is wildly off; not a majority I think but quite vocal unfortunately). In the end, everyone's sus 🤪

@badri @liztai I think it's reasonable for Western nations to have national security concerns about China's Internet-connected products. Third world countries? It depends. Arab or South American nations maybe won't be very concerned. India has history of conflicts with China, no? I'll say it's good to be cautious at least.

Indonesia? At least ordinary citizens don't have to worry. My own government is more of a threat 🙃

Back to Huawei products: I have bought two of them so far, they are fine devices.

@gombang @liztai that's true. I don't know if China would intentionally mess up Western systems and miss out on all that trade, but given the opportunity they might say "why not" 😉

Yeah India has had a bunch of conflicts, but we also historically have had a lot of trade with China (still do, despite the superficial bans). I think it's more about shoring up political support at home and encouraging people to buy local than actual security stuff 🪙

What Huawei devices did you buy (phones or other fancy gadgets)? 👀

@badri @liztai not phones. I find no Google Play Store too limiting, sadly.

I have a Huawei tablet and a smartband.

@gombang @liztai nice! My experience with Huawei has been mainly in the "tools to connect wirelessly to the Internet" department but I should check out their other stuff as well

@badri @gombang I have a Huawei smartphone and watch. My Huawei still has Google stuff as it's pre-ban. Belongs to a museum, I guess lol