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well that's a way to answer a question without answering a question https://docs.syncthing.net/users/faq.html#why-does-syncthing-connect-to-this-unknown-suspicious-address

so it turns out this open source dropbox-style thing has "relaying" on by default; it doesn't ask you, and instead assumes it's ok by you to just connect to random ips without asking first

I don't care that they "can't see my data", the assumption is a breach of trust

Of course, it took hunting down some forum thread to understand what was going on

open source projects really need to take this sort of user experience more seriously

@mattly@hachyderm.io Do they have any technical justification for the relay system? The only thing i can think of is that it might help transfers on networks with poor peering.

@puppygirlhornypost2 I didn't go looking for one; but the non-answer in their FAQ is enough to put me off from the whole thing

@mattly@hachyderm.io I mean yeah me too, I'm just curious at this point why they would think that's okay.

@puppygirlhornypost2 it is to solve the issue when you have your 2 nodes behind separate NAT networks that want to contact each other, but you don’t want to have a centrally hosted / controlled STUN//TURN server. The DHT approach is a good solution for this, at the expense of knowing which nodes are doing the brokering of connections and endpoints @mattly

@dch@bsd.network @mattly@hachyderm.io It's not about the technical aspect for me - I understand why this is necessary. I just do not like how opaque they are about it.

@mattly hey I appreciate this was off tone here sorry for that @puppygirlhornypost2