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@itamarst My sense is that #uv solved the problems that #Pipenv set out to address & uv's approach is superior. Pipenv usage will be stable the same as python 2.7

Pipenv had many missteps & reasons for complaint. But when it started 8 years ago(!), python venv & req management were almost total chaos. Apart from Anaconda and Docker, it was common practice to YOLO an unpinned requirements.txt

Pipenv was a leap forward. Grateful for the effort. Generations of better tools have come since, tho

@jacob Interestingly pipenv has almost no Darwin users compared to Windows, whereas for Poetry they're equivalent. That suggests maybe pipenv usage is also inflated?

pepy.tech claims to have way to filter out CI but you have to pay for that.

@itamarst maybe? Hard to say - the numbers can be hard to interpret because it’s just raw downloads, not any sort of actual per-user stats.

I’d be suspicious of paying for anything without knowing their methodology first. I don’t the the data exists to do that in a non-synthetic way, so understanding how they claim to do the filtering would be key to knowing if it’s worth paying for or if it’s snake oil