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@dizzyd if you don't mind me asking, I'm curious about the nuance.

Was the reason the speaker was telling you to check it out was because of a "to fight evil you must know it" type of reason, or a "you should read this it's good stuff" type of reason?

In other words, was the speaker advocating for that mindset that they were asking you to review, or presenting it as a cautionary tale to avoid?

@cosmiccleric does it matter?

If it was a "joke": "We're sorry X made that joke and we unequivocally don't agree with Kanye's statements"

If it was "serious": "We're sorry X made that statement and we unequivocally don't agree with Kanye's statements".

Either way, easy-peasy to be clear.

@dizzyd I wasn't phrasing it as a joke or not, though.

I was asking along the lines if the person was telling you see this to learn this to know how to fight this, vs. see this and learn this to be like this.

That nuance matters.

@cosmiccleric not really; if you want to study the arguments of fascism and antisemitism, you can do it without giving an audience to those practicing it

@marypcbuk Disagree.

And regardless, I was inquiring into the intent of the people doing the presentation, why they would do such a thing.

If they were doing it to be bold and promote that negativity that would be shocking. A propaganda presentation.

But if they were doing it as a cautionary tale, to say these are the warning signs to look out for and not fall into, then that means something else entirely. An educational presentation.

Content and nuance matters.

@marypcbuk as an addendum, to elaborate on my disagreement of your statement, I'm speaking towards things like the Holocaust Museum.

To fight an evil you must know about it, you can't bury your head in the sand about it.

Context and nuance matters.

@cosmiccleric sources like the Holocaust Museum are why you don't have to consume fascist and antisemitic viewpoints directly and give an audience to the fascists and antisemites; you can learn about the problems without amplifying the hate speech

@marypcbuk Well if the presentation was made in the same way as an exhibit you would see as you're walking the halls of the Holocaust Museum, wouldn't both be educational?

It seems like you're thinking people who believe in the evils/lies are actually litetally standing in the room, making a propaganda presentation??

I couldn't determine that, from the OP publish, so I was inquiring further, trying to determine that, eirher way.

Context and nuance matters.

@cosmiccleric "check out kanye's speech" implies directly consuming it, not reading someone's expert take on it; but even if it was the latter, suggesting that you subject everyone in the company to something that even at an academic level could be distressing to a whole lot of folks? why would that be appropriate for a speaker to kick off at a work event with no warning to people in advance so they could choose whether or not to be there?

@marypcbuk I'm already aware. I think you may be reading too much into my query.

I was just seeing the OP punlish and thinking "No that can't be true, there must be something more to the story than that, right? Who would have the gall to literally do propaganda for hate inside of a corporate meeting? Let me ask for clarification."

And to be blunt, it was just a minor curiosity, and my asking was just trying to drive some activity here on the new social network site (vs the old one).