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#bluefin

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so... who is #bluefin for?

because people tout it as the distro for everyone... and when you go to the website, it's just some developper stuff, cloud native and so on. stuff that quite frankly, means nothing to me. i'm really annoyed by all these projects that are supposedly awesome because they're written in rust, are "cloud-native" or whatever, i'm sure its cool, but when looking it up, all i get are technical explanations that are meaningless to me.

sometimes, it genuinely feels like a lot of open source projects, especially around linux, are complicated just for the sake of it. i wish i coud have a distro that doesn't assume i'm a pro dev or sysadmin or whatever, while also being up to date and actually functional. and supposedly, this is it? well, it doesn't feel like it.

i watched @thelinuxcast's video on it and while i still don't get it... he nails it when he talks about the fact that bluefin's marketing is its biggest issue because, damn, i am completely lost. :neofox_drowsy:

It occurred to me today that I probably know less about what’s under the hood of my Project Bluefin install than I do about any Linux that I’ve ever used.

I’ve dove deep into the guts of Arch, regular Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Debian and so many other distributions.

My god, at the time I’ve spent over the years just coaxing Debian into what I expected it to do on different machines.

I keep meaning to read up on ujust and a few other things, but I just haven’t had to.

Click button. Do some stuff. Go about my day. Everything just works.

Honestly, Silverblue was just as stable, but Bluefin has some nice quality of life tweaks.

#linux
#bluefin
#fedora
#silverblue

the refurb fleabay stinkpad yoga Just Works ™️ on a fresh install of #bazzite with zero fiddling. the only thing that doesn't work is the pen stylus thingy but I think the batteries in that dude are are staight up shot. easy fix.

what an incredible distro... #bluefin and bazzite are the best Linux experience I've had in my 30 odd years of daily driving #linux.

/cc @ublue

alright opted for the #thinkpad yoga... made an offer on fleabay. let's see where it goes.

the idea is i can use it in the noc, read PDFs for the control equipment on it by flipping the screen over like a tablet, and i have the bonus of plugging it in behind the tv and running #kodi because it's got an HDMI port.

now the dilemma is do i run #bazzite or #bluefin? i already run one for work and the other on the desktop. i'll probably go with the former for the preinstalled kodi.

can't decide on a new #pixel tablet with #grapheneos on it or a refurb #thinkpad yoga with #bluefin on it. use case is behind racks in a NOC, configuring gear and whatnot plus reading magazines from the library with Libby. also reading technical docs in PDF dorm for industrial equipment, hence the desire for a touchscreen.

#android has terminal capabilities (built in or via termux). choices, choices.

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For users who want to try #Linux, I recommend this: Do not listen to people who tell you to use #Ubuntu, #LinuxMint or other variants. They all use the same complex and often breaking mechanisms, and can cause a lot of hassle.

Instead, I recommend these systems:

- #Fedora #AtomicDesktops
- #UniversalBlue #Aurora #Bluefin #Bazzite
- #HeliumOS

Looking forward to #SerpentOS too, and trying #NixOS.

These systems are reliable like an Android phone, while offering you more freedom.

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a gen 3 x1 yoga looks real promising and there's a few to be had inexpensively. a cursory web search seems to show #fedora and #arch generally working on that model, which means #bluefin stands a chance of working.

I'm interested in the touch screen feature because I'd like to read magazines from the library as well as PDFs for some of the industrial equipment I work on. It's a little arduous on my phone's small screen and using a mouse with it is weird, too.

So, I have an interest in writing CLI applications in Ruby. It seems a good use for it, little single-purpose apps to do various linuxy things. It satisfies the need to learn and play, and makes me smile when something actually works.

I setup Bluefin so I could play around with Ruby, and in doing so started reading up on what others had done in this area.

I discovered "Doing" this morning, and isn't that just the neatest thing little thing.

github.com/ttscoff/doing/wiki

#linux
#ruby
#bluefin

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The Universal Blue team was tired of waiting for upstream so we did it ourselves and made a Live ISO builder for `bootc` images: Titanoboa! It's currently in a pretty alpha-ish state since we've started developing this like 3 days ago, but its already somewhat functional and Blue95 (a custom windows95-like image made by Adam Ledif) already has a functioning live installer for the image if you wanna try it out!

What does this mean for you? Faster, smaller, and more accessible installation environments :)

github.com/winblues/blue95
blue95.neocities.org/
github.com/ublue-os/titanoboa
#bootc #fedora #linux #bluefin #blue95 #ublue #universalblue

Looks like there's a similar ujust runner for #bazzite like the #bluefin cli tool group: docs.bazzite.gg/Advanced/bazzi

Handy!

I just miss this stuff when I'm futzing around on a server but I suppose the ☁️ 🌻 CLOUD NATIVE 🌻 ☁️ response would be "why would you ever log into a server you absolute wet wipe?

docs.bazzite.ggBazzite Command Line Tools - Bazzite DocumentationBazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices.

Yesterday, I wanted to re-fit an old Toshiba Satellite U840-113 (PSU4SE) with Linux for a friend. He asked for something like ChromeOS because he doesn't want to care about anything and mostly uses the browser anyway, so I chose Bluefin. After booting with a Ventoy stick (just mentioned because it might be the cause for what followed), I think it's Anaconda which displayed an error dialog for a few moments before the system shutdown again, leaving me without a chance to find out what happened.

I shrugged it off, blamed Bluefin and went on to download Silverblue. Same thing. Okay, maybe it's because the old hardware and Anaconda don't work together. So I downloaded Fedora Workstation.

Interestingly, on clicking the "Install" button, it errored out apparently in the same way but without shutting down. I could restart the installer and that worked. 1/2

I am finding that using the #Bluefin atomic setup really great for just getting on with things. It's oddly disconcerting not to be bothered or alerted by the need to update things which just apply themselves in the background during future reboots.
It's come on in leaps and bounds from the last time i tried Ublue.
universal-blue.org

universal-blue.orgUniversal Blue - Powered by the future, delivered todayUniversal Blue is a diverse set of images using Fedora Atomic's OCI support as a delivery mechanism. That's nerdspeak for the ultimate Linux client!

I got fed up with the constant issues with getting Pipewire Application Capture working on :bluefin_dino: Bluefin (GNOME) F41, so I decided to give :aurora: Aurora (KDE Plasma) a go.

And it works! It's... very different. I've used GNOME since the first time I tinkered with Ubuntu way back when I was 13 or 14, so it's certainly going to take some getting used to. I can see the appeal though.

Can I just say, being able to simply and easily rebase between different Univeral Blue variants made the switch such a pain- (and fear-) free experience - if it didn't work or I didn't like, just rebase back!

Bootc as a project is one with tons of promise and lots of community support. It's what is powering the next generation of Atomic Desktops, CoreOS, and Fedora IoT, not to mention all of the work that @UniversalBlue has done to show off everything that can be done today.

If you want to follow bootc more closely, regular updates from Fedora's end are shared here. :)

➡️ discussion.fedoraproject.org/t

Fedora Discussion#bootc-initiative topicsThis is the primary discussion space for the (proposed) Fedora bootc initiative, which seeks to establish the Fedora community as the center of activity for implementing methods of configuring and managing image based Linux systems using OCI container tools.<br><br>For real-time, interactive conversation, join us in #bootc on Fedora Chat.